In this episode of the Italian American Podcast, Patrick, Mariana, and Marcella are joined by guest Umberto Mucci for a live conversation recorded at IAFL4 (Italian American Future Leaders 4), a national gathering of young Italian Americans. The discussion explores cultural identity, community building, leadership, nostalgia, and what it means to belong across generations and borders.

The conversation deepens as the group addresses longstanding tensions between Italians in Italy and their American descendants. Drawing on his experience on both sides of the Atlantic, Mucci offers a candid perspective on why Italian American pride can sometimes meet resistance in Italy, and how history, perception, and unresolved misunderstandings continue to shape those dynamics. The episode also previews a forthcoming podcast spinoff aimed at bridging that divide, featuring Italian journalists reporting from the United States for audiences in Italy.

Balancing humor with intellectual seriousness, the hosts dismantle stereotypes, share family stories, and respond directly to online critics. The result is an honest, engaging dialogue—and a call for greater empathy between communities bound by shared history, memory, and culture on both sides of the ocean.

THEIR SOCIALS:

 

UMBERTO-

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/umberto.mucci/

Instagram: umbertomucci

 

MARIANNA-

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LAmarianna.gatto/

Instagram: @gattolosangeles

Website: https://www.iamla.org/staff/staff-marianna-gatto/

 

MARCELLA-

Instagram: Marcella_martinphd

Website: https://www.marcellamartin.com/

 

HOSTS:

Patrick O’Boyle

Marianna Gatto

Marcella Martin

 

SPECIAL GUEST:

Umberto Mucci

 

PRODUCED BY:

Nicholas Calvello-Macchia